It was the MP awards ceremony on Friday, and there was an acknowledgement of the need for PD sufferers to have an outlet to express themselves and I quote HRH The Duchess of Gloucester:
"It’s truly wonderful to be able to celebrate such beautiful and inspiring art. The Mervyn Peake award highlights the abundant creative talent that needs a channel for expression. This award and Parkinson’s UK offer people with Parkinson’s that much needed channel."
As I understand it, the Forum got a brief mention in the speech given by one of the entrants but other than that there was no great encouragement for the members of the Creative Corner. Would you believe it, the winner of the poetry award was unaware of the Forum's existence but she has promised to check it out and may even post.
Now, not only is it a surprise that there was no official mention, but I think, just a bit disappointing especially after all the hard work , & effort that goes in, from our end, and the many contributors with the extremely high quality of poems.
With that in mind it would be encouraging to know if any of you have been commended in the past and if so perhaps we could have an MP thread where we could ask you to post the poems that have been praised by the judges. Who knows, it might encourage others to write and even educate the rest of us as to the kind of entry the judges are looking for.
This Forum is a godsend to many and for people to not even know of it's existence is a shame , and also, here was an opportunity to give us a bit of public awareness, but it was missed!
I'm sure however that the Bogman and Lin did their bit for us behind the scenes.
Maybe disappointment is clouding my judgement, perhaps you feel differently ?
Hi Mike , I do agree with you in sentiment that Lin and Bogman are the best poets. Yes, and I do agree that it would be fantastic if their work could be mentioned and presented in some way. But, ,and I.use myself as example ,I did not really write, or even. Consider writing poetry until I came onto the Forum.. So would it not also be a good idea to encourage people just to try and write poetry . I began writing it and I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it and how relaxing Ifound it and how encouragement from better poets than myself helped meant great deal.
And nowi although I may not be as good as some i intend to enter a poem ,or may be two in the awards next year. As I have , in the past won twice photogphy competitions ,although I did enter the photographic section of the awards ,I was not sucessful. But I fullyintend to enter thephotographic and poetry sections next year. After all Itis taking partwhichcounts.
Like every other competition, there can only be a few winners and runner-ups. I entered the poetry section for the first time but with no tangible success. But the very act of composing a poem has its own rewards. Without naming any individuals, there are some very good poets on this forum. It would be fitting to see some of their poems in some form of publication. Any suggestions?
I wasn't intimating that Bogman & Lin were the best poets on the forum, rather, that they attended the Awards Ceremony and that I'm sure they would have done their bit in singing the praises of Creative Corner.
No doubt we 'll hear from them both eventually?
I agree with you BA, it is the taking part that counts , as highlighted in some respects by HRH when she mentioned " abundant creative talent that needs a channel for expression" and I just think that an opportunity was missed to promote Creative Corner and the fabulous poetry in it.
So , to develop on this, I just thought that those people who entered previous MP Awards and had their work commended would like to re-post them for us to enjoy again, and also perhaps provided an indication of what the judges are looking for?
Perhaps we could start a MP thread for these previous entries, and also for potential entries, and maybe we would be then half way to Boyo's idea of a publication?
I am sorry it has taken so long for me to add my comments to this discussion. I have had trouble with my computer!
For the record, I have had one poem included in the 2011 PUK Calendar and last year, my Mervyn Peake poem was given a special mention. I have also entered paintings and photographs in the past.
The reason I enter is because it is ‘available’ and that I might stand a chance! There are a relatively small number of entrants, all suffering this Parkinson’s ‘thing’ and wanting a small showcase for their work.
I am proud of my poems and I actually like them. They give me a sense of satisfaction. My greatest source of pleasure is when one of my pieces is read out on our local BBC radio station, generally once a week.
I am going to speak honestly now but I will try not to cause offence.
Firstly, imagine, you are a member of ‘the Peake Family’. You set up a competition in memory of your wonderful father, and people start questioning and squabbling about it. I know what I would do/think if I was a member of that family!
The Awards Lunch was very enjoyable and I met several people I had long wished to meet. The competition entries were displayed, I loved some, admired some, didn’t care much for some. Just as it should be!
However, I was amazed to read Mike’s opening comments that the poetry winner did not know of the existence of this section of the Forum. I don’t know why I felt a bit annoyed about this because computers don’t appeal to everyone and there will be many people who have no knowledge of, or access to this ‘technology’ which plays such a huge role in my life. A bit of encouraging publicity from PUK wouldn’t come amiss! Have you heard of Poetry on the Underground or poems printed and put as posters on buses. Now, there’s an awareness campaign!
Does PUK advertise/promote this little haven of ours? Steve Ford mentioned us very briefly at the ceremony last Friday. They had produced five or so A4 booklets of poems from Mervyn Peake entries. Some ‘bounder’ actually tried to steal one of them! YES! I SAID FIVE A4 BOOKLETS – VERY PLAIN.
Who remembers a glossy little A5 booklet of Forum Poetry, ‘Just Like Wearing Clown’s Shoes’ published several months before the Awareness Week campaign of 2013 – ‘Put yourself in my Shoes’.
I compiled and printed that glossy booklet (sorry, but I am going to blow my own trumpet here) and sent it to anyone who asked for a copy. FREE! I have to admit, I did ask if recipients would contribute individually to Parkinson’s funds. All the poems were written by people on here eg. turnip, bogman, angel4you, marcel, titan, BJS, posh bird and others!
I have gone off the point but I really do feel that Creative Corner could be used to more advantage by PUK.
The Peake Awards are good. If they run again, I will enter. I humbly suggest that changing the judging panel a little would result in the winner’s net being cast a little wider!
Being a Grade A show-off – I will find my Mervyn Peake poems and post them. Such a shame you can’t see my paintings! They would make you laugh, if nothing else.
It is a good idea to have a gallery where commended poems are put on view in the Creative Corner. For one thing it proves that every now and then we write something that catches the judges eye and for another it may actually indicate some common denominator.
My first ever entry was commended and put on the calendar but zilch ever since.
If the judges remain the same (I have no complaint about them) then it is worth our while looking at what we have done successfully. I know that whenever the person who sets my crossword changes that for a time I find it difficult until I tune into his wavelength. Perhaps it will be the same with our judges. One thing I have noticed is there is a preference for classic images (last year "wolves") and for prose poetry. I could write about animals but I find poetry without rhyme very difficult.
The winner of the poetry section was at my table and I asked her if she was a member of the Forum. She asked what was it and from that it is assumed she does not post. She did say that she writes a lot of poetry and would check us out in the future.
As for being one of the better poets on here I must say and in this I have been consistent over the years, I am a rhymer and that is all. The real poets are in a different strata altogether. My bits are really to try and entertain whilst a poet does not care what an audience thinks as long as the poem is seen as poetry.
There will be posts after this that will say why care one way or another, that this is our little corner and forget about the awards. I think that is a missed opportunity and Lin's point about awareness and the Clown's shoes is spot on. I will continue to enter and hope one day to write something that is commended again and I would love all of us to have something out there which raises the profile of Parkinson's and raises some funds.
By the way the guy who gave the speech mentioned the Forum as well as Steve Ford.
This is what he said,,,,,
Before I start my story, I must tip my hat to the Forum
Where Lin posts her Sonnets and her acolytes treat her with decorum.
There's Titan, Turnip Angel4u and other poets of the night
When one receives a Mervyn Peake commendation it causes great delight.
Does anybody know if the regular sort of poetry competition on the world-wide web,raises a decent amount of money or are administration costs too high?
When I first started writing, I entered quite few competitions paying up to about £5 per poem for the privilege of entering. I soon realised that I didn't have a chance because there are fashions in poetry styles - sonnets, raps, cinquain, whatever. I never got anywhere really.
On being disappointed, yet again, at my lack of success, I wrote to one competition organiser to ask for their winning formula. I think even Shakespeare, Wordsworth or Ted Hughes would have struggled!
What I think I am suggesting is a pay as you post (online or through letter box) type competition either restricted as to subject/style of poem open to all or a parkinson's poem written from personal point of view by anyone affected by Parkison's.
At the moment, I have a ranting sort of ditty going around my head. Something about a politician finding themselves in a position where they are humiliated and pestered by little brown envelopes. This poem will use vocabulary related to esa, incapacity benefit, officialdom, etc. and will contain lot of swearing!
It will be great fun filling out the asterisks.
Hi all, thanks for your comments - a really interesting discussion. I'll pass your feedback on to colleagues here at Parkinson's UK to have a look at how we can use Creative Corner and link up related activities in a better way.
Lin - beware of the so-called vanity poetry competitions. Entry is usually free but most of the poems, whatever the standard, are published in an anthology, hoping that each entrant will buy at least one copy (priced at £15 - 20). Some of them publish children's poems, hoping that the parent' will buy 2 or 3 copies each. There are 2 or 3 well known ones but I won't name them (in case of libel).
Thanks Boyo. I know what you mean. I only enter Mervyn Peake these days.
Thanks for your concern.
I am about to post my first poem of the day - there might be a few posted in the next few hours!
Thanks. Keep the poems coming!
Some waiting on July 2013.
This was my 2013 Mervyn Peake Entry
The church bells ring to welcome the New Year,
Forget the past and make a bold, brave start.
Stand head to head and face each doubt or fear,
Find inner strength to play a leading part.
This life is yours to live the way you choose,
And friendly hands will help along the way.
With confidence and charm you cannot lose,
Faith in yourself will always win the day.
No matter what, your resolutions keep,
Let nothing stop the things you want to do.
On solid path although the hills are steep,
Be firm and strong to make your dreams come true.
The truth to tell as clock begins to chime
It rushes by, this heartbeat we call time.
HI, Well on the subject of the MP awards, I have written a letter to my local MP. will let you know if I get a result. Love BA x
HI MAESTEG,WHERE. ARE. YOU?
BLUE ANGEL ISSO TIRED
AND SHE IS SEEKING YOU!
PLEASE FIND ME ,MY FRIEND ,
I AM. ALWAYS SROUND MOSTLY. POETRY!
I SHall look out for you .
I Would just like to say that I have sent a letter to our local Mp. I have just received a reply And, I shall be forwarding a copy. Of. The letter to parkinsonz Uk. Or, should Isend it to anyone I particular. If so, I. Would'. Bemost o ligedif you could tell me to whom I should send the reply I received.
Please don't. Get your hopes. Up!
I just thought it was worth a try!
Love. BA. X
Well,having just got back from a 14 day cruise yesterday.First holiday abroad in 30 years for my Wife and I.What greets the post holiday Blues,but this.
Have I not told everybody here and on other forums,the pointless exercise of entering the MP's Awards on here.The winner does not know of the forum's existence!!,well that just takes the biscuit.It proves what I have been saying all along,will anybody actually listen to me.There is actually sense among the nonsense I spout.I have never and will never enter these lame,commercial,back slapping,horrible competitions which end up with the drawing of straws,the picking out of countless folded pieces of paper.Or worse still,the unprofessional,tasteless selection of some trumped up award designator,who has no idea of what Poetry or Art is.
I paint from the heart,I express words from the heart.I air my words whenever and wherever I feel.I give away my Art to people who are close to me.
I don't need this B*****ks.
Because that's what the peake's award is,I ignore spell check,post as I see,spell check does not recognise many words,has anybody else noticed that.Anyway I usually copy and paste.
First port of call(ironic that)where now?
14 days at sea eh? Hope you enjoyed it - my wife wants to do Norway & Fjords later this year ( our friends just had 7 days on the Queen Elizabeth to the Fjords & loved it ), but i'm not too sure, as she hates the water, and refuses now to travel across the Channel, or travel to Esbjerg to visit the kids in Denmark unless we fly''
My mate also put on 5lb in 7 days, without 'pigging out ' he says!
Anyway, back on topic, several people were disappointed with some aspects of the MP awards, hence the thread, but at least it is being looked at, so perhaps there will be some changes, for the better, for next time?
Nice to see that being 14 days older has not mellowed you..