Discovering the remains of King Richard III under a car park in Leicester is one of the most sensational archeaological finds of all time. However, the decision to re-interr him in Leicester is now being challenged by the people of York, who think he should be buried there. Being a Leicestershire person there's no doubting where my loyalties lie. What do you think?
O Pomfret, Pomfret! O thou bloody prison!
Fatal and ominous to noble peers!
Within the guilty closure of thy walls
Richard the Second here was hack'd to death.
richard did all his best evil deeds there and there could be good line in hump-backed licorice sweeties.
i watched the programe about it also christo,it was so intresting.i personally think he should be layed to rest in leicester,he was found under the carpark,but when he was alive he was fiting the enemy,and got struck down there,leicester deffo the burial site.
To be honest do you think he deserves a Christian burial after what he did? I am from Yorkshire and a Christian.
i seem to recall jesus saying something about forgiveness? or was that nelson mandella?
anyway at the pontefract R3 theme park
- the two princes coconut shy - knock em down and win a crown
- the scolliosis big dipper ride
- the olivier hall of deformed mirrors
- the winter of our disco tent (you have to admit thats a corker!)
It's enough to give you the hump! I think it's disappointing that he didn't look like Larry Olivier.
and so in 2015 the R3 fun park opened in Leicester. It was very popular especially with tourists from yorkshire. Included amongst them was young Albert Sumner and his dance-mad mum Gloria. 'I'm going to win that competition ' she declared referring to the contest for the best at doing the 'hump', the new richard the third dance craze.
And so later that day, inside the giant pavilion of dance came the immortal message:
'Ladies and gentlemen. Now its the winner in the disco-tent, mad Gloria Sumner, and her son, Bert, from York.'
no groaning now!
Hi Turnip, Maybe you are right, after all Jesus forgave everyone their sins, didn't he.But Who will actually make the decision as to where R3 is actually buried ?
It won't matter one iota to Richard where he is eventually put. i.m.h.o they should have left him where he was. By most accounts it seems he was a murdering, psychotic lunatic much like an awful lot of the inbred, so called aristocracy of that time.
Shakespeare's portrayal of Richard as a ruthless, scheming villain was largely Tudor propaganda. As for the princes in the tower, the truth may never be known.
How different the course of this country's history might have been if Richard had been victorious at Bosworth. Henry VIII's protestant reformation might never have happened. England might have been conquered by the Spaniards. America might never have become a British colony. Food for thought!
according to the mystic fountain of truth (wikipedia) richard was an all round goody. henry vii killed all richards rellies so he was at least as bad as richard.
indeed it could be said that killing alternative rulers is a good thing as it stops civil war and saves lives. bees and lions do the same thing.
richards heir was the bustard john of pontefract (really) and as william the conq was also a bustard there is precedence.
so after winning bosworth john of pentefract eventually becomes king and moves the capital to pontefract. london returns to being a malarial swamp. the yorkshire dialect becomes standard english. england now being perfect there is no need to subdue the rest of the world in empire. instead the english turn to spirituality and develop a religion based on the holy trinity of rugby league, black pudding and mild. harmony and peace and hyper-haemoglobin spread over the world. [yorkshire zen chant; ooooooommm, ooooooooommmmmm'
I always wondered why Pontefract cakes bore the seal of the House of York. I bet Richard lost the battle because he was caught short after eating too much licorice!
Christo is probably right, most of it was Tudor propaganda, and as brilliant as Larry's potrayal was , it hasn't helped Richard's reputation - we will never know the truth.
Innocent until 'proven guilty', which is highly unlikely with the passage of time, and he was probably no worse than some others, so as an English King surely he should receive the same honours /burial as any other Royalty?
indeed christo, licorice was the real thing in those days and an extreme laxative, as shakespeare quotes richard
'my harse, my harse, a kingdom for my harse'
a real problem when wearing a suit of harmour on a hot day. no wonder he was deserted by his allies.
so my vote definitely goes to pontefract where he should be buried in the co-op carpark where tourists can pay a premium to park over the remains of R3.
I just love Pontefract cakes, hate royalty, love cakes from Pontefract, the real ones of course.
Yes I agree, I think he should be buried in Leicester or York.
sorry ,folks, but I av to agree with Turnip! pontefract in yorksher would av bin a far better head of england than mere london, cos for a start more people understand t' lingo in yorksher and cos t' lingo is so different t'way other folk talk.it makes yorkshr stand out fromt'rest o' england , so it would be better.,
Andy, if you do not agree
with me you, for one, will not be getting any Pontefact cakes when I go up to see my Godmother in a few weeks time! SO,Matey, I reckon it's time to be extra nice to Blue Angel. for a while!
I seem to recall that Blue Angel was a song by Roy Orbison. If you're old enough to remember. I don't think he came from Yorkshire though. Moind yow, ah reckon ay moit ah bayn a Midlander rayt enough. Wadda yow recon?
Do forgive me Christo, but I thought this discussion was about where R3's bones should b reburied?