Beech Bands

Hi tot
I have been using a “sort of version” of a beech band for about a week now and was not sure it was doing anything but after just feeling a bit wound up over something totally out of my control I put it on my wrist and after a few mins it did make me feel a bit calmer concentrating on the pulse so I recon you are right and it calms you down.
I will try it out next time something gets right on my wick!

That’s how I am approaching it birch, trying it in any situation where it might have an impact. It’s actually quite hard to believe that the vibrating ‘watch’ works but I was very aware it didn’t feel like it was the overwhelming issue it felt like up until that point Sometimes I think it doesn’t matter if you don’t understand how it works just axxwpt it does.
Tot
PS my bin now has a lock lol

Did you know steve2 that bra design uses engineering principles, I kid you not. Do you have any engineering experience ? It may be a totally bonkers idea, simply mad, have a niche following or something more tangible if you had some idea of what use it would be but I doubt you ever get it even started.

FYI many are like me the bra is the first thing to come off especially in this heat. Most are expert cotortionists able to remove said garment without removing their top …and if you think I am taking this a tad seriously it’s all written with my tongue very firmly in my cheek. I think it’s a bonkers idea but the world would be a poorer place without the occasional bonkers idea that works lol
Tot

Evening Tot … I don’t think I have told anyone but I do test certain Parkinson’s products. Some are laser based and some are vibration based. One of the problems with the vibration based products is where do you place them. Some on the chest, some on other parts of the body. A vibrating bra might be a viable idea as its position is set.

However as you know if I carry a cup of coffee I shake uncontrollably, God knows how much I would shake holding a bra.

Best wishes
Steve2

Steve2 bless you that made me laugh out loud for real. Clever old stick on the quiet aren’t you?
To bring the thread back to its original theme, having tried the Beech Band on both wrists it feels more natural to me on my right wrist. This is perhaps not surprising since I am a left hander but like many left handers who have to use things designed for a largely right handed world, I am quite good using my right hand. Like most people, I have always worn watches on my left wrist. It does intrigue me a little therefore, as to why I prefer to wear the Beech Band. which is like many fitness tracker watches in appearance, feels like it ‘belongs’ on my right wrist
Tot

Hi Tot
Yes sometimes things work in in a way you can’t understand easily.
Years ago I had issues with noise and in particular noisy neighbours so went to a hypnotherapist who gave me cassette tape to relax and listen to.Went home listened to it and drifted into a bright calming white light . Drifted towards it and then a voice said “go back it’s not time yet”! Never been so calm in the whole of my life…the hypnotherapist was amazed but to this day I could not recreate the calm again!
So to end the waffle I have no idea how the beech band works but if it helps in different ways for different people thats a big plus!
And good idea with the padlock although in my case I would need a combination one as I loose keys like its going out of fashion :slight_smile:

Hello All
Just thought I would share my latest experience of the Beech Band, hope some of you find these posts helpful.

This morning was interesting. I had an 8.00 am session with my Personal Trainer, the earliest I have had, they are usually 10 00 am
Sometimes 9.00 am and we were both intrigued to see how I would do. To try and make sure it was an accurate a picture as we could, I kept my morning routine pretty much as I always do and thought I would try with the Beech Band on for some of the time and off at other times. Today she brought with her the equipment you see in the photo - an agility ladder, hurdles and cones which she made into a circuit to practise big steps, change of direction steps, sideways and backwards steps and so on in different combinations.

The Beech Band was off to start with and first we used the agility ladder and I did ok, although my heel did clip a few of the rungs on the ladder. It was the same with the hurdles and cones. When I put the Beech Band on I cleared all the rungs on the ladder and stepped cleanly over the hurdles - which she raised 3x to an end height of 1ft. She noticed when the Beech Band was off I took my weaker leg around the outside of the hurdle rather than step over it and that when the Beech Band was on I stepped over it. I didn’t realise I was doing that but she was right. I tried it with it on and then off a couple of times and I could feel a definite difference between the two. Also my general rhythm of stepping and my balance were also better when the Beech Band was on. I found I often matched my speed to the vibration.

I don’t think I need it to be on all the time but I am finding it increasingly hard to deny it doesn’t seem to have some benefit in certain situations.
Tot

PS In case you were wondering, this may have seemed quite an easy session but I can assure you it is tougher than it looks, big steps, sideways steps and back steps, following patterns of movement each circuit being marked by some cardio with the height of the hurdles increasing 3 x in the hour and to repeat this several times non stop is no mean feat and requires more concentration than you might think. Lol.
Tot

Hello birch,
I do have to make sure I put the keys to the bin lock in the same place all the time or I would be continually looking for them :rofl:
Tot

I purchased my BeechBand on the 7th of August, at a cost of £49.50 plus shipping of £4.20. It was delivered on the 11th by Royal Mail.

It is, I think, a first production model, made with a basic specification, to be put on the market at a reasonable price. If sales and feedback go well, I would expect to see an improved model later.

It has the appearance of a watch, but isn’t, so you might want to wear a watch as well. I wear the band on my right wrist and my watch (which is almost identical black plastic), on my left.

Almost every other rechargeable device has at least two small LED, red to show battery needs charging and green to show charged. Many have additional lights to warn you of the batteries state of charge. The band has none. You get no warning of a low battery; the device simply stops working. It charges in 45 minutes, but you have to time it, as there is no indication.

The battery, fully charged, lasts no longer than 3 hours. It switches on and off with a simple button press. It is best, therefore, to switch it on when needed (e.g. walking), and off when not (e.g. sitting). You need to be aware of how much battery time you have left, otherwise it may suddenly stop working in the middle of an activity.

The issues with the battery are an inconvenience that will, I am sure, be addressed in a future model.

I have found the band to be comfortable to wear, and I am not troubled by the vibration.

Now for the big question. DOES IT WORK? After just four days I am thinking, maybe. It is certainly, for me, not an instant success, but there are some positive signs. A factor which I need to explore is ‘learned behaviour’. By this I mean, I have always frozen at a particular doorway and continue to do so despite wearing the band. Is this the band not working or (more likely) just a behaviour I need to unlearn.

Do I recommend the BeechBand? Yes. At a realistic £50, I think it is worth a try. Don’t expect a miracle though.

Apologies, I didn’t upload the photo to go with my post, this is it.
Tot

My husband has had this band for 2 days I think it has made a lot of difference,but I will see if it’s just a good few days he’s having

Great to see you again, @Annemac74!

It’s wonderful to hear it seems to be helping already. Fingers crossed it continues to make a positive difference – those little improvements can really lift your day

Take care :blue_heart:

Parkinson’s UK Moderation Team

Hi everyone, Carl here inventor of the BeechBand. Because there are loads of unanswered questions here and sometimes some wrong information which could cause a problem I thought I would just write down a few bullets for you or so you had it from the horses mouth.

As an example, suggestions by clinicians that we should have a variable frequency or that it’s been set too high. Both of those messages are incorrect and could almost certainly derail the symptom relief. All this is explained at a webinar but in essence the precise frequency and it being fixed are crucial to its efficacy.

  1. Do make sure you attend a free webinar you can come to as many as you like. The content is always changing as we gain new insights.
  2. if there’s a fault or you even questions then our support team will be there to help.
  3. we are patient led. I have yopd. It’s low cost to make it accessible and we only include features that patients tell us they need.
  4. it’s a simple device because it’s then easy to operate for those with fine motor control issues. Also no need for a smart phone, app or Bluetooth etc. you put it in and get with your day.
  5. We went from eureka moment to invention to scale manufacture and distribution in under a year. That’s unprecedented but it’s because we’re driven by helping people and hearing patients voices. We’re working on a new model as hard as we can and will incorporate your feedback. Keep evening 25/9 free for a livr announcement.
  6. only 25% of people have an instant response most between weeks one to 6. We have learnt that the best responses are from those who wear it seven hours a day at least seven days a week we’re also learning that many people get a kind of residual benefits where the effects of the bank continue even when it’s not on but again that comes from extended use clinical trials will examine and look into all of these.
  7. Wear it on the opposite side to where your symptoms are if you’re bilateral you can wear one on our side and they don’t have to harmonise. If that doesn’t work, try the same side as your tremor or stiffness because in 10% of the time that’s what happens.
  8. it must become a subconscious signal. Be like the person who lives by the train tracks but his learn to tune the trains out subconsciously you need to kind of forget the bands on for it to work best. It may take you a few weeks but it’s worth it. Concentrate on net worth than looking for seem to leave and you do that by just getting on with your day constantly looking at if it’s working or not stop it from becoming a subconscious vibrotactile stimulation device.
  9. It impacted me most between months 12 and 13 of wearing it. You must think long-term, but if you unhappy up to 45 days, send it back and refund.

Finally, I know that the speed it runs out would not seem to be conducive to relaxing and yet so many people say it calms them down .how can that be? Quite simply it’s because the device is not for you it’s for your brain when it becomes subconscious bypasses. Your conscious thoughts and brain training takes place. The effects can be utterly profound. I based it on my theory that the brain remembers the safest place you’ve been. Your mother’s womb. A mums heartbeat is higher due to strain on the body but you as a baby are totally safe and relaxed. Your brain remembers what it felt and triggers the vagus nerve. That’s why it’s effective. Do not attempt to lower it or it won’t work. It’s also why metronomes don’t work as well. Our device mimics the resonance in a specific but undetectable to you, but not your brain and nervous system.

Remember however just as in pharmaceuticals this may not work for everybody it may not work for you but it has given some people hope and for that we’’re very grateful. Hope all that helps

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