Dear Eck,
I am so sorry to read about your difficulties and the pain that PD is causing you and your wife. Dealing with PD is enough of a challenge when PWP and partner are playing on the same team, but when we fight it gets terribly hard. It’s very tough for you to have to accept that your disease is getting worse, and it’s hard for your wife too.
Look at her reaction as a kind of grief. Psycho-models say that the person suffering loss goes through series of emotions – denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. In PD, the loss doesn’t come all at once like a stroke but is a continuous process, so the emotions cycle round and round through the five stages of grief. And one of those stages is anger.
Your wife is angry right now, and where can she go with her anger? It needs to get out or she’ll explode (if she’s anything like me) – and you are the nearest lightning conductor. That is desperately unfair on you, and I suspect she is fully aware of that so gets to wallow in feelings of guilt and inadequacy after her angry outbursts (if she’s anything like me). Does that mean she has stopped loving you and would be happier without you? Not if she’s anything like me.
In similar situations, my husband has felt cornered and grasped at the same suggestion several times: “Let’s look at this rationally. It’s clearly best if I leave, then at least one of us can have a life.”
But that would be making a life changing decision on the basis of the emotions of just one natural stage in the grief process. The anger will pass. It will probably also come back again, and it will be hideous again, but it is survivable. Splitting up – you sitting alone in one poky flat with nobody to even care what you spill, her sitting alone in another poky flat feeling like the biggest failure in the world for not being better at helping the man she loves – that sounds a lot less survivable to me.
Do you ever watch Dr Phil on TV? Lots of nonsense, but I like it when he says that “this situation needs a hero”. Be the hero. Go to Mothercare, buy one of those self-righting baby cups, stick a rose in it and give it to your wife. Five quid says she’ll laugh and cry and kiss you.
All the best,
Marie
Hi Eck,
Sorry to hear your obvious pain and the situation you're in.
Let's face it , it's hard to live with another person even if you're in the peak of health! I think the key might be in giving both of you space from each other. Even if it's hard to do this physically, given the sizes of our houses/flats etc. It is possible to create a mental space in our heads where we go to escape for a bit. perhaps doing an activity we enjoy.
There is a book called 'Men are from Mars and women are from Venus' which centres on the differences between men and women's psyche. It even speaks about the man's need to go into his 'cave' for a bit of an escape. It cautions us females to not bother him while he's in there ! We women usually go shopping!
Could you simplify your living space a bit? I mean get rid of carpets and have a very ' easy to keep clean and mop up spillages,' surface such as vinyl -- doesn't have to be expensive.
Can your wife get away for just a few days perhaps staying with a friend/relative ? You might even miss each other !
Hope there may be something here that helps, best wishes.
Sorry to hear your obvious pain and the situation you're in.
Let's face it , it's hard to live with another person even if you're in the peak of health! I think the key might be in giving both of you space from each other. Even if it's hard to do this physically, given the sizes of our houses/flats etc. It is possible to create a mental space in our heads where we go to escape for a bit. perhaps doing an activity we enjoy.
There is a book called 'Men are from Mars and women are from Venus' which centres on the differences between men and women's psyche. It even speaks about the man's need to go into his 'cave' for a bit of an escape. It cautions us females to not bother him while he's in there ! We women usually go shopping!
Could you simplify your living space a bit? I mean get rid of carpets and have a very ' easy to keep clean and mop up spillages,' surface such as vinyl -- doesn't have to be expensive.
Can your wife get away for just a few days perhaps staying with a friend/relative ? You might even miss each other !
Hope there may be something here that helps, best wishes.
Dear Eck
I’m sorry you feel that the only course of action for you is to leave your home. You sound like a really nice guy to me and, yet, I can identify with your wife as I would make a lousy carer too.
I would like to endorse the excellent advice from both MarieL and Lorna. Please keep us posted.
I’m sorry you feel that the only course of action for you is to leave your home. You sound like a really nice guy to me and, yet, I can identify with your wife as I would make a lousy carer too.
I would like to endorse the excellent advice from both MarieL and Lorna. Please keep us posted.
Thanks for your advice and good wishes it was brilliant. They made me cry, you truly are beautiful people. I didn't realise how angry i'd got and my annoyance just melted.
I've got her smiling again, I started talking about someone neither of us like and we were back to being a team again. As soon as she lets me out her sight I'll get that Mothercare cup. And I'll try and fashion a pair of trousers out of its design.
| justy got upset at the manner of my fall (I just started stumbling backwards, I wasnt near anything), the carnage it caused, the upset to my wife. The fact she got upset and angry made me angry that she got angry.... etc etc.... It was just the ease of how we fell out over blooming hot chocolate. I know its an accumulation of everything else.
I could just imagine telling my familiy "Thats it, its over. I've left her". "Why?" "I spilled hot chocolate, it was up the wall, on the floor, all over me..." "Your living room is was painted using vinyl silk and your floor is laminate" "Still..."
I didn't think I was still grieving, I know I went through it at the beginning, but I thought I'd left it behind, but I haven't and neither has my good lady. It's been worse, much worse. especially on those dopamine agonists. We're not going to come unstuck over a hot milky drink. It was actually cold, I was on my way to the microwave, but thats not important.
I also phoned to make an appointment to see a physio, it cheered her up that I'm doing something about it.
Thanks again for the help.
Eck and his dented ego and his sore bot.
I've got her smiling again, I started talking about someone neither of us like and we were back to being a team again. As soon as she lets me out her sight I'll get that Mothercare cup. And I'll try and fashion a pair of trousers out of its design.
| justy got upset at the manner of my fall (I just started stumbling backwards, I wasnt near anything), the carnage it caused, the upset to my wife. The fact she got upset and angry made me angry that she got angry.... etc etc.... It was just the ease of how we fell out over blooming hot chocolate. I know its an accumulation of everything else.
I could just imagine telling my familiy "Thats it, its over. I've left her". "Why?" "I spilled hot chocolate, it was up the wall, on the floor, all over me..." "Your living room is was painted using vinyl silk and your floor is laminate" "Still..."
I didn't think I was still grieving, I know I went through it at the beginning, but I thought I'd left it behind, but I haven't and neither has my good lady. It's been worse, much worse. especially on those dopamine agonists. We're not going to come unstuck over a hot milky drink. It was actually cold, I was on my way to the microwave, but thats not important.
I also phoned to make an appointment to see a physio, it cheered her up that I'm doing something about it.
Thanks again for the help.
Eck and his dented ego and his sore bot.
Hello Eck '
So good to hear you with a bit of fighting spirit coming out. You sound like a lovely chap ---- good idea to use humour, we really like that in our man ! Carry on , you're getting there ! Best wishes.
So good to hear you with a bit of fighting spirit coming out. You sound like a lovely chap ---- good idea to use humour, we really like that in our man ! Carry on , you're getting there ! Best wishes.
Dear Eck,
It's wonderful to hear that things are so much better - and your little speech with reasons for leaving really made me laugh! We all have bad times, but so long as there are also good times with a laugh and a great big hug, we'll be fine.
All the best,
Marie
It's wonderful to hear that things are so much better - and your little speech with reasons for leaving really made me laugh! We all have bad times, but so long as there are also good times with a laugh and a great big hug, we'll be fine.
All the best,
Marie
Eck, I'm really pleased with your news, I guess your wife's anger is not confined to you, probably "why us?", "why me?", "why you" etc. I would imagine she is also afraid of the future, who wouldn't be?
I saw Maddie at the weekend, just like your wife with you, I suppose she finds me irrestistable.
I saw Maddie at the weekend, just like your wife with you, I suppose she finds me irrestistable.
Hi all
I have just read right through this post and cried over several bits. I am 64 and single (a widow). I have a boyfriend who I met several years ago and he is very supportive. He means the world to me - I love him to bits. We spend quite a bit of time together - he goes to all my Neuro appointments with me. What worries me is will he cope (or even want to cope) with me when the PD really kicks in as it is bound to one day. There is no answer to it. But it really frightens me. I cant bring myself to discuss it with him because how can he know what to say when he doesn't yet know what condition I will be in say in five or ten years time. I just have to enjoy today and keep my fingers crossed.
I have just read right through this post and cried over several bits. I am 64 and single (a widow). I have a boyfriend who I met several years ago and he is very supportive. He means the world to me - I love him to bits. We spend quite a bit of time together - he goes to all my Neuro appointments with me. What worries me is will he cope (or even want to cope) with me when the PD really kicks in as it is bound to one day. There is no answer to it. But it really frightens me. I cant bring myself to discuss it with him because how can he know what to say when he doesn't yet know what condition I will be in say in five or ten years time. I just have to enjoy today and keep my fingers crossed.
Hi Pat,
I feel the same as you....my guy and I have been together for 14 yrs, getting married sometime soon....but I'm not sure how things will be with us after the 24th...as he does not do well with stressful things....and we've got plenty of them right now....my PD is only one thing we're dealing with.
I think I'm going to have to put on my best "coping" face....and just hope he does not do too much research (as you said they don't need to know it all at first)....as to what happens when its been 10 -15 yrs. in time.
My daughter is my "healthcare proxy" already, so she knows that there are certain decisions I've made already, and she'll make sure my wishes are known. So, he won't have to do it all alone, later on.
well, time to fix supper here.....hope you all have one of your better nites....
I feel the same as you....my guy and I have been together for 14 yrs, getting married sometime soon....but I'm not sure how things will be with us after the 24th...as he does not do well with stressful things....and we've got plenty of them right now....my PD is only one thing we're dealing with.
I think I'm going to have to put on my best "coping" face....and just hope he does not do too much research (as you said they don't need to know it all at first)....as to what happens when its been 10 -15 yrs. in time.
My daughter is my "healthcare proxy" already, so she knows that there are certain decisions I've made already, and she'll make sure my wishes are known. So, he won't have to do it all alone, later on.
well, time to fix supper here.....hope you all have one of your better nites....
Hi there
I have just got back from a wonderful holiday with my daughter, really refreshed, and my husband (who is now off the dopamine agonists, thank God, and is more his old self personality-wise) was there to greet us with a huge smile on his face. Getting home, he'd washed the linen, mowed the lawn, cleaned the kitchen, looked after the dogs - fantastic. We are so happy again in each other's company. We have lived apart for nearly four months now after a terrible crisis in which divorce nearly got filed. The crisis led to the dopamine agonist being withdrawn.
I think Marie has hit it on the head - there is nothing more miserable in some ways than two people sitting alone in separate houses. However, there is a need for the carer to have some freedom and I have to say that in the last year some of my happiest times have been spent with friends, non-PD people, with whom I can chatter, laugh, feel myself again.
We will be repairing our marriage over the next few months hopefully, and will spend days and evenings together when we can (we're going out to dinner this Friday), but we have recognised we have to spend time apart for our sanity. For example, my husband was taken on holiday in July by friends who accepted that his week would be spent just sleeping in the afternoons and the rest of the time he lay by the pool. I'm more active - that would have driven me nuts. Vice versa, he couldn't have coped with the lively holiday I've just had. We have made a pact that we shall allow each other to have the freedom to do what suits each of us, apart.
I'm obviously in a very optimistic mood at the moment and I'm sure there are much darker times ahead, but I thought I'd just tell you that sometimes a crisis is what you need, gives you the opportunity to re-shuffle the pack and try another approach to life, one that suits both of you.
I have just got back from a wonderful holiday with my daughter, really refreshed, and my husband (who is now off the dopamine agonists, thank God, and is more his old self personality-wise) was there to greet us with a huge smile on his face. Getting home, he'd washed the linen, mowed the lawn, cleaned the kitchen, looked after the dogs - fantastic. We are so happy again in each other's company. We have lived apart for nearly four months now after a terrible crisis in which divorce nearly got filed. The crisis led to the dopamine agonist being withdrawn.
I think Marie has hit it on the head - there is nothing more miserable in some ways than two people sitting alone in separate houses. However, there is a need for the carer to have some freedom and I have to say that in the last year some of my happiest times have been spent with friends, non-PD people, with whom I can chatter, laugh, feel myself again.
We will be repairing our marriage over the next few months hopefully, and will spend days and evenings together when we can (we're going out to dinner this Friday), but we have recognised we have to spend time apart for our sanity. For example, my husband was taken on holiday in July by friends who accepted that his week would be spent just sleeping in the afternoons and the rest of the time he lay by the pool. I'm more active - that would have driven me nuts. Vice versa, he couldn't have coped with the lively holiday I've just had. We have made a pact that we shall allow each other to have the freedom to do what suits each of us, apart.
I'm obviously in a very optimistic mood at the moment and I'm sure there are much darker times ahead, but I thought I'd just tell you that sometimes a crisis is what you need, gives you the opportunity to re-shuffle the pack and try another approach to life, one that suits both of you.
How utterly brilliant for you, Surrey dreamer! You were in such distress, trying so very hard, and came really close to having to give up. It is excellent to hear that things are so much better now.
Of course healing takes time, but having your man off the DAs and acting himself again is the essential starting point. I hope Amy in the thread about DAs can take some comfort from your story.
All the best,
Marie
Of course healing takes time, but having your man off the DAs and acting himself again is the essential starting point. I hope Amy in the thread about DAs can take some comfort from your story.
All the best,
Marie
Hi
I would have taken comfort, but you forget I cried and begged (to my shame) to X's parkinsons doctor to help me, only to be told the only way he could help is if I got X to tell him of the side effects himself - which he won't do as he is convinced I am the one with the problem not him. Sadly what works for one doesn't always work for another. I also sent him a letter - but when X went for his appointment, which he would not let me attend, and would not have gone into if I was there, the doctor asked him how he was and he said 'great' and they sent him home with the same medication again - to torment me more.
But I am happy to hear that others have suceeded where I have failed.
Amy
I would have taken comfort, but you forget I cried and begged (to my shame) to X's parkinsons doctor to help me, only to be told the only way he could help is if I got X to tell him of the side effects himself - which he won't do as he is convinced I am the one with the problem not him. Sadly what works for one doesn't always work for another. I also sent him a letter - but when X went for his appointment, which he would not let me attend, and would not have gone into if I was there, the doctor asked him how he was and he said 'great' and they sent him home with the same medication again - to torment me more.
But I am happy to hear that others have suceeded where I have failed.
Amy
I am raging at the idiot "parkinsons doctor" dealing with your X.
My view is that these meds should only be prescribed to people who can be supervised by a carer and that the view of the carer be taken into account,
When these tabs advesly affect a pd sufferrer the results can be devastating. I changed big time. I was drove my wife potty with lies, thinking I new better about anything and everything. I became obsessive compulsive, which included compulsive lying, to myself as well as everyone else.
I told an ex-client, who knew about my parkinson's, but decided to give me the gig and support me when others abandond me, that I couldnt make the appointment because I had wet myself while driving out to see him. The reality was I fancied going fishing. I was killing myself laugjing for the rest of the day and ended up crying becauase I didnt know who or what I had become.
I caused total financial and emotionlal chaos. It cost me my life savings, destroyed friendships, my business, almost made myself and my wife bankrupt..
The effects of these drugs are now very well documented and why on earth people have this stuff dumped on them rendering them incapable of rational decision making is totally beyond me.
Amy you shouldn't be ashamed, this doctor should be. He/she could have said with the knoweldge you have given him/her they should would at least question the patient to find out if the drugs are causing behavioural changes and amend them as necessary.
I'd fully vent my spleen but fear the moderator might not like it...
These drugs are obviously very benefial to a lot of people. but when you have an adverse reaction to them, Parkinson's is the least of your problems, you just cant see it.
They can change your drugs, but they do bog all to reverse the debt, bankruptcy, get your spouse to trust you or you to trust yourself. Not even a note saying "Please excuse the behaviour, but X was having his/her brain mashed with hprescriiption drugs". The government will bail out the banks, but when the nhs (insert your own word here) you up, thats a wee shame, too bad, never mind.
As to what you can do about it, I havent the foggiest. The only thing you can do is to give your X cited examples of the effects these drugs can have, point out how his behaviour has changed from the way he was to how he has become and to tell the doctor.
I wish you and your X well.
Eck
My view is that these meds should only be prescribed to people who can be supervised by a carer and that the view of the carer be taken into account,
When these tabs advesly affect a pd sufferrer the results can be devastating. I changed big time. I was drove my wife potty with lies, thinking I new better about anything and everything. I became obsessive compulsive, which included compulsive lying, to myself as well as everyone else.
I told an ex-client, who knew about my parkinson's, but decided to give me the gig and support me when others abandond me, that I couldnt make the appointment because I had wet myself while driving out to see him. The reality was I fancied going fishing. I was killing myself laugjing for the rest of the day and ended up crying becauase I didnt know who or what I had become.
I caused total financial and emotionlal chaos. It cost me my life savings, destroyed friendships, my business, almost made myself and my wife bankrupt..
The effects of these drugs are now very well documented and why on earth people have this stuff dumped on them rendering them incapable of rational decision making is totally beyond me.
Amy you shouldn't be ashamed, this doctor should be. He/she could have said with the knoweldge you have given him/her they should would at least question the patient to find out if the drugs are causing behavioural changes and amend them as necessary.
I'd fully vent my spleen but fear the moderator might not like it...
These drugs are obviously very benefial to a lot of people. but when you have an adverse reaction to them, Parkinson's is the least of your problems, you just cant see it.
They can change your drugs, but they do bog all to reverse the debt, bankruptcy, get your spouse to trust you or you to trust yourself. Not even a note saying "Please excuse the behaviour, but X was having his/her brain mashed with hprescriiption drugs". The government will bail out the banks, but when the nhs (insert your own word here) you up, thats a wee shame, too bad, never mind.
As to what you can do about it, I havent the foggiest. The only thing you can do is to give your X cited examples of the effects these drugs can have, point out how his behaviour has changed from the way he was to how he has become and to tell the doctor.
I wish you and your X well.
Eck
Andyij,
As you know, Parkinson's is a movement disorder, it doesn't affect the persons raw animal magnetism.
It does affect my typing and that last posting is totally shocking.
Eck
honest i know 'knew' is spelled 'knew' and not 'new'. honest.....
As you know, Parkinson's is a movement disorder, it doesn't affect the persons raw animal magnetism.
It does affect my typing and that last posting is totally shocking.
Eck
honest i know 'knew' is spelled 'knew' and not 'new'. honest.....
Hi Eck
Thank you for sharing your fishing story - which made me smile as my X has got to the stage where he has tried hiding his golf clubs from himself (not an easy thing to manage!) as he is now golfing all the time instead of working and can't stop himself. Although to an outsider these stories might sound funny, they are really not as they are messing with people's lives. I am obviously very mad at the doctor, but there will come a time when I will stand in front of this so called parkinsons expert and tell him EXACTLY what I think of him. He goes home to his cosy home and tv at night whereas we are the people that are living the nightmare HE is creating and then not willing to take responsibility for - and I wish there was some way I could get things changed medically so carers wouuld be listened to - like changing a bill in the government, but I'm not sure how this would be achieved, maybe a petition of some sort I don't know. Certainly my X has put up with alot of hardship I could have saved if someone would have listened to me and I feel very sorry for him -it's a very difficult position to be in watching someone doing these things and not be able to do anything about it as someone else has the power.
I also smiled at your comment to Andyji, as my X too also seems to think he has become irrestable to women (sorry Andyji I'm not saying your not irrestible I'm sure you are and always have been), but I wondered if this also could be another side of either the parkinsons or the medication
Am glad the divorce isn't going ahead Everyone gets fed up Eck, even people without parkinsons, everyone has bad days where it's the straw that breaks the camel's back!
I hope everything is going well.
Amy
Thank you for sharing your fishing story - which made me smile as my X has got to the stage where he has tried hiding his golf clubs from himself (not an easy thing to manage!) as he is now golfing all the time instead of working and can't stop himself. Although to an outsider these stories might sound funny, they are really not as they are messing with people's lives. I am obviously very mad at the doctor, but there will come a time when I will stand in front of this so called parkinsons expert and tell him EXACTLY what I think of him. He goes home to his cosy home and tv at night whereas we are the people that are living the nightmare HE is creating and then not willing to take responsibility for - and I wish there was some way I could get things changed medically so carers wouuld be listened to - like changing a bill in the government, but I'm not sure how this would be achieved, maybe a petition of some sort I don't know. Certainly my X has put up with alot of hardship I could have saved if someone would have listened to me and I feel very sorry for him -it's a very difficult position to be in watching someone doing these things and not be able to do anything about it as someone else has the power.
I also smiled at your comment to Andyji, as my X too also seems to think he has become irrestable to women (sorry Andyji I'm not saying your not irrestible I'm sure you are and always have been), but I wondered if this also could be another side of either the parkinsons or the medication
Am glad the divorce isn't going ahead
Everyone gets fed up Eck, even people without parkinsons, everyone has bad days where it's the straw that breaks the camel's back!I hope everything is going well.
Amy
Hi, I have read and re-read the posts and one thing is clear. The side effects of the medication used, in most cases, is the main contributory factor to changes in personality and rational behaviour. We are all guinea pigs in one way or another when it comes to the medical profession. Our challenge though is with the pharmaceutical companies. I know little or understand the implications of a class action against these companies but they do exist. There is a successful action in Canada and one recently launched in Australia.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2010/s2918355.htm?site=adelaide
Sufferers in New Zealand are also launching a similar campaign. I wonder if there are any legal eagles on this forum that might throw some light on these matters and start a new thread for a similar action here in the UK?
I have no idea of the benefits of such an action other than it will raise awareness so maybe some good can come out of it.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2010/s2918355.htm?site=adelaide
Sufferers in New Zealand are also launching a similar campaign. I wonder if there are any legal eagles on this forum that might throw some light on these matters and start a new thread for a similar action here in the UK?
I have no idea of the benefits of such an action other than it will raise awareness so maybe some good can come out of it.
I don't really think I am irresistible to women, only one lady in my life that I want to be in that postion with.
I have changed my medication, I now have five and half hours of "on" time, before I need another dose. I spend most of the day not feeling like I have PD, my gait, facial features, uncontrolled movements etc., have improved beyond my wildest dreams. I am so enthused, however, my biggest disappointment is that I don't have Maddie to share it with me. My mood swings are still a problem, and the new meds are not a cure for PD in the long-term, I fully understand how difficult this is to deal with.
However, onwards and upwards in the meantime.....
I have changed my medication, I now have five and half hours of "on" time, before I need another dose. I spend most of the day not feeling like I have PD, my gait, facial features, uncontrolled movements etc., have improved beyond my wildest dreams. I am so enthused, however, my biggest disappointment is that I don't have Maddie to share it with me. My mood swings are still a problem, and the new meds are not a cure for PD in the long-term, I fully understand how difficult this is to deal with.
However, onwards and upwards in the meantime.....
I am still irresistible to women. There are at least 2 checkout assistants at Tescos that fancy me.
Having said that, there is another two horses with long faces who dont ask if I need help with packing my shopping or even give out poly bags. I think thats because they find me irresistible but know they have no chance cos they are a pair of miserable sods. Or they bat for the other side and see me as a threat. Or they just dont like me. Or they are bone idle. Or their farmers are playing up and they have a job sitting on them all day. Or they are taking medication for an underlying condition that mean they can function, but the side effects are being miserable and unhelpful - in which case they have my full support and sympathy.
So technically thats 4 that fancy me.
I'm in danger of straying off the topic again.
My life has got to the stage where if I'm not happy I just move the goalposts until I am.
For example. No one in Asda fancies me at all. So I just kept changing superstores until I found a store where there was someone who did.
Eck
PS I'm kidding, I haven't returned to my obsessive compulsive ways. There were at least 5 in Asda, not including the bloke, but Tesco was closer and I preferred their own brand comestibles.
Having said that, there is another two horses with long faces who dont ask if I need help with packing my shopping or even give out poly bags. I think thats because they find me irresistible but know they have no chance cos they are a pair of miserable sods. Or they bat for the other side and see me as a threat. Or they just dont like me. Or they are bone idle. Or their farmers are playing up and they have a job sitting on them all day. Or they are taking medication for an underlying condition that mean they can function, but the side effects are being miserable and unhelpful - in which case they have my full support and sympathy.
So technically thats 4 that fancy me.
I'm in danger of straying off the topic again.
My life has got to the stage where if I'm not happy I just move the goalposts until I am.
For example. No one in Asda fancies me at all. So I just kept changing superstores until I found a store where there was someone who did.
Eck
PS I'm kidding, I haven't returned to my obsessive compulsive ways. There were at least 5 in Asda, not including the bloke, but Tesco was closer and I preferred their own brand comestibles.
Eck
I'll let you into a secret, (from a woman's point of view) the ones that seem to not fancy you are the ones putting on a show, they are the ones that are really after you but don't want to make it obvious so they pretend to be the oppsite way.
I'll let you into a secret, (from a woman's point of view) the ones that seem to not fancy you are the ones putting on a show, they are the ones that are really after you but don't want to make it obvious so they pretend to be the oppsite way.
Well Amy, those two must be complete perverts, they seem to be that way with everyone they meet. The dorty swines.
So when they lied about having no bags they had been undressing me with their eyes. I feel all dirty and used at the thought. Oh, they've also been handling my meat and veg. I'm going to throw up.
Actually it goes a long way to explaining why my good lady has been giving me a hard time of late.
Tonight I'll fall on my ass again, shouldn't be too difficult, wait for her to explode then I'll make my move. How can it possibly go wrong. Thanks for the advice Amy
Oh, and I'm going to sue Tescos for sexual harassment.
Eck
So when they lied about having no bags they had been undressing me with their eyes. I feel all dirty and used at the thought. Oh, they've also been handling my meat and veg. I'm going to throw up.
Actually it goes a long way to explaining why my good lady has been giving me a hard time of late.
Tonight I'll fall on my ass again, shouldn't be too difficult, wait for her to explode then I'll make my move. How can it possibly go wrong. Thanks for the advice Amy
Oh, and I'm going to sue Tescos for sexual harassment.
Eck