Madapor

As a newbie - and only 40 years of age - trying to stay positive @Jane_L

I also have to say, regarding meds, I’m guided by my very knowledgeable and supportive Consultant Neurologist.

I don’t find it helpful at all to have the obvious pointed out. I am fully aware of what is happening to the dopamine in my brain.

Helpful and supportive vibes only :blush:

I am sorry if you feel my reply was negative and unhelpful. It wasn’t intended to be.

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I am aware that people react to this condition in many different ways. It is hard to fault anybody for being negative but I tend and to try and keep a positive mind as I think it helps. With regards to my initial post I should add that I have recently had had a heavy cold and chest cough as well as working away for most of the last few weeks. That may be a factor and I am going to wait until after the holidays to see how I am before I contact the nurse or consider increasing my medication

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One thing that I am confused about is the dosage. On the bottle it states 25mg /100 mg not sure what that means is that a small dose medium dose or large dose can anybody on here help

25/100 is the standard dose.

I would just like to say that I actually found Jane_L’s response rather refreshing! I have the same problems but am not on Madopar, and have recently been diagnosed with osteoarthritis on top of everything else (another ‘progressive’ illness). I was diagnosed originally in 2009, but was suffering symptoms for about 10 years before that. The doctors and physios continually tell me to stay positive, and I try. But Jane’s post spoke directly to me - that sometimes I feel I want to turn to them and say that! Also it is very difficult to admit to myself - I know that now I am obviously not well in terms of how others see me, and it feels like a continual fight all day, every day, to try and appear ‘normal’!! Does anyone else feel this way? I think it is a matter of acceptance. I have not yet taken that step, partly because denial actually worked for quite a long time.

Hi Gordo, we hope our forum members can offer you some guidance on this. If you are still unsure, we do recommend contacting your Parkinson’s professional on this and they can answer any questions you may have.

My contribution, whether you see it as negative or not, was based on my own experience. When I was first diagnosed I tried to keep my intake of meds as low as possible, as if by doing so I could slow down the progression of the disease. I was actually encouraged to do this by a number of people (although no medical professionals that I can remember). As a result I inflicted a lot of unnecessary suffering on myself. It took me nearly a year to realise my mistake.

The only reason not to take meds that could reduce symptoms of PD is if they produce side effects worse than the symptoms. Otherwise, if it works, take it.

Jane, I really appreciate your feedback on this post. I agree with you that there seems to be a consideration that the faster you go with drugs the quicker they wear off. That is the illusion I have been living under. Madapor work for me initially very well but I seem to have gone back to square one fairly quickly. The dose I am on is 3 times per day and I wonder if I need to increase that to regain the feel good factor that I felt initially. I will speak to the nurse early in the new year but meantime thank you for your responses they are much appreciated

Jane L

Sadly the higher the dose the more likelihood of side effects, especially the longer you take it.

Is it the higher dose that results in side-effects, or the length of time you’ve been taking it, or both? I know a few people with early onset PD who have been taking a low or medium dose of Madopar for many years without side effects, so my guess would be that it is the strength of the drugs which makes side effects more likely, not the length of time one has been taking them. But I don’t know whether there is any research on this.

Hi Gordo
Madopar is actually two drugs together - Levodopa (the part that gets converted to dopamine) and Benserazide (the part that helps the levodopa get where it needs to be - across the blood/brain barrier). The 100/25mg are the doses of levodopa and benserazide respectfully.
A similar situation exists in the alternative to Madopar (Sinemet) where the constituent drugs are levodopa and carbidopa.
Cheers
Paul

In my experience, both.

Thanks for the explanation I understand it now I guess the only way to increase the dose is the number of times you take the tablets in a day

Jane–I love your response–
Just 5 days into diagnosis at 60, and i’m pretty much done crying, so gotta embrace this next part of my life! Looking forward to meeting and talking in person with folks who have been dealing with PD, newbees to oldies~ Hello PD, now get out of my way! Just started the Madapor 4 days ago and working up the dosage, so way too early to know…
Rick

Latest research says that it is rather the dose of madopar; the lower it is, the better the chance to avoid side effects associated with madopar; length of time doesn’t seem to be very important if the dose remains low…

However, it’s inevitable that the longer that you have had Parkinsons then the dose WILL need to be increased. I had 20+ years experience of dealing with, and balancing dosage V side effects for my OH, (with the permission of a neurologist and only within certain parameters whilst keeping detailed notes myself), and believe me you cannot stay on a low dose for ever much as you would like to.

Thanks Benji, can you tell me what you consider to be a low dose. That’s the bit I’m trying to get my head around

gordo

Everyone responds differently to medication. Unfortunately there are no set rules or dosages or everyone would be just fine on drug X three times a day. My OH started Ropinirole immediately, (we knew no better then) and was very quickly on the maximum dose of 24 mg/day. After a while they were prescribed Madopar, initially 62.5, 3 times a day. which, after around 18 years ended up being x6 125 tablets a day. However, you may read elsewhere that on admission to hospital a doctor, not a neurologist, doubled this dose much against our wishes but they would not listen. I am no expert and can only suggest to start on the lowest dose that gives you some respite from your symptoms.
All the best.
benji

Diagnosed Mar 18. Symptoms - poor gait with freezing, broken sleep, poor balance, no tremor, fatigue, rigidity, weak left foot. Started Sinemet 50/12.5.Upped to 100/10 then 100/25 3xdaily. Also was taking Aspirin75mg/Atenonol 25mg & Simvistatin40mg for longstanding heart disease. Interestingly the freezing stopped ever since PD meds - although rest of symptoms not much improved. Briefly tried SinemetCR 100/25 at night for sleep but no benefit so stopped. Possibility of vascular Parkinsons discounted after CT brain scan was normal. Mid 2019 diskensia started and breathing became bearably laboured but tiring 1 hour after meds. Some minor muscle twitch in legs. Saw GP and switched to Madopar 100/25 3X daily - no benefit still diskensia after tablet. At Xmas 19 I dropped the lunchtime tablet and felt better. Sleep improved. Noted after some time still tired and stiff at times and eventually restarted 3rd tablet recently. Getting dosage right is crucial and due to visit GP on Weds.